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	<title>Comments on: More fallout from Tacoma&#8217;s eco-regulations</title>
	<link>http://5views.com/2008/05/28/more-fallout-from-tacomas-eco-regulations/</link>
	<description>Right-Blogging Tacoma/Pierce/Puget Sound/Washington</description>
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		<title>By: Erik B.</title>
		<link>http://5views.com/2008/05/28/more-fallout-from-tacomas-eco-regulations/#comment-1570</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So would no zoning be better for the urban environment? Is Houston, with no zoning, a better place than tightly regulated Seattle or Portland (I don’t think so!)?&lt;/i&gt;

Tacoma and Pierce County are a mess primarily because the County engaged in huge suburban sprawl subsidization which encouraged the near abandonment of the downtown and many of the urban centers.   Pierce County, like Huston has been a train wreck for growth management.

Its far better tax wise to have the growth occur in the city center rather than in the suburbs which require even more expensive and subsidized road building and utility extensions.   

Having taxpayers subsidize suburban growth has made living 30 miles away from Tacoma appear to be a free choice when the fact is that it has externalized a great many financial and environmental costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So would no zoning be better for the urban environment? Is Houston, with no zoning, a better place than tightly regulated Seattle or Portland (I don’t think so!)?</i></p>
<p>Tacoma and Pierce County are a mess primarily because the County engaged in huge suburban sprawl subsidization which encouraged the near abandonment of the downtown and many of the urban centers.   Pierce County, like Huston has been a train wreck for growth management.</p>
<p>Its far better tax wise to have the growth occur in the city center rather than in the suburbs which require even more expensive and subsidized road building and utility extensions.   </p>
<p>Having taxpayers subsidize suburban growth has made living 30 miles away from Tacoma appear to be a free choice when the fact is that it has externalized a great many financial and environmental costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Republican By Default</title>
		<link>http://5views.com/2008/05/28/more-fallout-from-tacomas-eco-regulations/#comment-1569</link>
		<dc:creator>Republican By Default</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 01:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://5views.com/2008/05/28/more-fallout-from-tacomas-eco-regulations/#comment-1569</guid>
		<description>Too much planning?  If the planning is bad then the more of it the worse things will end up.  Since this was bad planning, yes, this is an example of bad planning.

Tacoma's City Council, Economic Development Board and all of the related groups (public and private) clearly don't know what they're doing.  They're pushing policies that may or may not work, but they push them anyway.

And all the while they're pushing these bad policies they're impacting taxpayers, businesses and anyone else who gets in the way.  Ultimately it is the city council that decides on policy, so they are the ones who need to think things through, but they don't.

We should seriously consider replacing some of them in the next election (2009).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too much planning?  If the planning is bad then the more of it the worse things will end up.  Since this was bad planning, yes, this is an example of bad planning.</p>
<p>Tacoma&#8217;s City Council, Economic Development Board and all of the related groups (public and private) clearly don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re doing.  They&#8217;re pushing policies that may or may not work, but they push them anyway.</p>
<p>And all the while they&#8217;re pushing these bad policies they&#8217;re impacting taxpayers, businesses and anyone else who gets in the way.  Ultimately it is the city council that decides on policy, so they are the ones who need to think things through, but they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>We should seriously consider replacing some of them in the next election (2009).</p>
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		<title>By: michael g.</title>
		<link>http://5views.com/2008/05/28/more-fallout-from-tacomas-eco-regulations/#comment-1568</link>
		<dc:creator>michael g.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So would no zoning be better for the urban environment?  Is Houston, with no zoning, a better place than tightly regulated Seattle or Portland (I don't think so!)? 

I think Tacoma's problems have more to do with a history of population loss to suburbs, a slowly recovering but historically weak economy, and perhaps substandard city planning.  But too much planning doesn't seem to me to be the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So would no zoning be better for the urban environment?  Is Houston, with no zoning, a better place than tightly regulated Seattle or Portland (I don&#8217;t think so!)? </p>
<p>I think Tacoma&#8217;s problems have more to do with a history of population loss to suburbs, a slowly recovering but historically weak economy, and perhaps substandard city planning.  But too much planning doesn&#8217;t seem to me to be the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://5views.com/2008/05/28/more-fallout-from-tacomas-eco-regulations/#comment-1567</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://5views.com/2008/05/28/more-fallout-from-tacomas-eco-regulations/#comment-1567</guid>
		<description>Good post!  I would like to amplify one point, if I may.  This is not just a case of the city government getting involved where it shouldn't; it is a case of rank amateurs dabbling in areas where they have no expertise.  

One has to wonder how this might have turned out differently, if the City Council were spending their own money.  Might they have been just a little more diligent about studying the potential consequences of their actions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post!  I would like to amplify one point, if I may.  This is not just a case of the city government getting involved where it shouldn&#8217;t; it is a case of rank amateurs dabbling in areas where they have no expertise.  </p>
<p>One has to wonder how this might have turned out differently, if the City Council were spending their own money.  Might they have been just a little more diligent about studying the potential consequences of their actions?</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://5views.com/2008/05/28/more-fallout-from-tacomas-eco-regulations/#comment-1566</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://5views.com/2008/05/28/more-fallout-from-tacomas-eco-regulations/#comment-1566</guid>
		<description>Yep, the eco-terrorists will never think of the unintended consequences of their radicalism because their minds are set on change whether it is good for humanity or not. 

Tragically, we ain't seen nothing yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, the eco-terrorists will never think of the unintended consequences of their radicalism because their minds are set on change whether it is good for humanity or not. </p>
<p>Tragically, we ain&#8217;t seen nothing yet.</p>
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